| Author | Comment | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
 Jedi Kluv |
Election '08! |
Lead | ||
|
Posts: 4158 02/13/08 9:41 AM the Maestro |
Now that we have a few more people tittering away on the boards, I thought I'd take some initiative (if it's kosher w/ Frants) and start up an Election
thread. Lord knows we're going to have some stuff to post over the next few months. So, I'll just kick it off by stating my own thoughts:
OBEY OBAMA.
Change is coming! 
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
Train Keeps A Rollin' | #1 | ||
|
Posts: 4169 02/20/08 10:00 AM the Maestro |
Well, the Obamanation continues. It's still neck and neck, and lord knows what will happen in the next few weeks (months?), but 10 in a row is 10 in a
row. The question: what do we think it will take for Hill to step down for the good of the party? Or, will they duke it out until the very end, going into
the convention with more than one candidate?
Well, at least it proves to be an interesting election year. Fop, what say you? |
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Frants |
#2 | |||
|
Posts: 3383 02/20/08 10:22 AM The Foppiest! |
I've heard rumblings of Obama catching Hill in Ohio and Texas. Remember that gerrymandering that Tom Delay helped the Texas State Republicans with a few
years ago? Well, funny enough, it seems to help Obama more than Hill. And Obama is the one Dem that's consistently winning polls against McCain.
I'm looking forward to see what the Democratic turnout will be in Ohio, and what the conservative state of Texas thinks of McCain. On a related note, for those of you who don't know what gerrymandering is.... I've just started a new book called: 
It's an examination of how our country has not only become dumber, but how it's become such that people are anti-intellectual. 1 in 5 Americans think the sun revolves around the earth. 9 out of 10 Americans don't understand radiation and why it's bad for you. America is the only developed country in the world that doesn't accept evolution as a fully accepted mainstream theory. Part of this is because of the fundamental religious types here, but that doesn't explain it all. There are other who simply don't accept, understand, or even try to understand the science behind it. Lack of curiosity is hurting us. The president calling us all 'folks' in order to seem in tune with ordinary people, because over the last 25 years, the Republican Party has made being intellectual a poisonous Democratic trait (the GOP calls them the 'elite'.... and calls them such from their huge mansions and Yale degrees). There are quite a few interviews with Susan Jacoby online (as the book came out this week). Check it out. |
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
#3 | |||
|
Posts: 4171 02/20/08 11:17 AM the Maestro |
How the fuck can 9 out of 10 people not know that radiation turns you into a mutated super-hero (or villain)?
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Bob the Instigator |
#4 | |||
|
Posts: 2388 02/20/08 12:25 PM |
...because radiation has nothin' to do with it.
Jesus made Dr. Banner big and green as a punishment for his scientific ways. If only he was a Dr. of God and not an evolution loving heratic, he might not turn into a giant monster everytime someone rubs him the wrong way. |
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
Read Between The Lines. | #5 | ||
|
Posts: 4178 02/22/08 9:50 AM the Maestro |
This picture from last night's debate makes me giggle.
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
seester |
#6 | |||
|
Posts: 168 02/22/08 10:15 AM |
He's threatening her with the shocker!
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
Grossville, USA. | #7 | ||
|
Posts: 4179 02/22/08 11:15 AM the Maestro |
Now that's an image I didn't need...
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Sperm |
#8 | |||
|
Posts: 1544 02/22/08 1:52 PM Astoria Jedi |
I thought he was about to summon the four horsemen to signal its all over. Wooooooooooo!!!
Sperm
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Duck |
#9 | |||
|
Posts: 1679 02/22/08 4:02 PM |
"Read between the lines, Hil, read between the lines."
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
Ouch. | #10 | ||
|
Posts: 4181 02/22/08 4:12 PM the Maestro |
Though I already used the "read between the lines" joke in my original post title, I would say you had better execution.
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Duck |
See what I mean? | #11 | ||
|
Posts: 1681 02/22/08 5:47 PM |
No one looks at post titles.
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Frants |
#12 | |||
|
Posts: 3387 02/24/08 10:04 AM The Foppiest! |
Nader's back.
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
What a douche. | #13 | ||
|
Posts: 4184 02/25/08 9:35 AM the Maestro |
Yippee.
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
This is probably going to piss me off more in 35 years. | #14 | ||
|
Posts: 4190 02/28/08 12:26 PM the Maestro |
Thought this was worth noting, From Boing Boing:
Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel prize-winner in economics, says the Iraq war has cost $3 trillion so far. According to the Guardian, "three trillion could have fixed America's social security problem for half a century." Some time in 2005, Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, who also served as an economic adviser under Clinton, noted that the official Congressional Budget Office estimate for the cost of the war so far was of the order of $500bn. The figure was so low, they didn't believe it, and decided to investigate. The paper they wrote together, and published in January 2006, revised the figure sharply upwards, to between $1 and $2 trillion. Even that, Stiglitz says now, was deliberately conservative: "We didn't want to sound outlandish." So what did the Republicans say? "They had two reactions," Stiglitz says wearily. "One was Bush saying, 'We don't go to war on the calculations of green eye-shaded accountants or economists.' And our response was, 'No, you don't decide to fight a response to Pearl Harbour on the basis of that, but when there's a war of choice, you at least use it to make sure your timing is right, that you've done the preparation. And you really ought to do the calculations to see if there are alternative ways that are more effective at getting your objectives. The second criticism - which we admit - was that we only look at the costs, not the benefits. Now, we couldn't see any benefits. From our point of view we weren't sure what those were." |
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Frants |
#15 | |||
|
Posts: 3390 02/28/08 1:49 PM The Foppiest! |
This, from ThinkProgress:
In a new book titled The Three Trillion Dollar War, Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes argue that President Bush massively understated the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Combined with interest on debt, future borrowing, cost of continued military presence, and veterans health care, they estimate a potential cost of up to $5 to $7 trillion. Unwilling to accept what Stiglitz calls a "very conservative" $3 trillion projection, the White House is smearing Stiglitz - President Clinton's top economic adviser - saying he "lacks courage":
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
The Political Musings of DMX. | #16 | ||
|
Posts: 4217 03/19/08 8:58 AM the Maestro |
In the middle of this interview with rapper DMX, it becomes clear that he's never heard of Barack Obama
before.
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Frants |
#17 | |||
|
Posts: 3406 03/24/08 1:12 PM The Foppiest! |
The man is losin' it.
 
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Kluv |
Dinner for Change. | #18 | ||
|
Posts: 4230 03/26/08 3:44 PM the Maestro |
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Frants |
#19 | |||
|
Posts: 3416 03/29/08 11:09 AM The Foppiest! |
Glenn Greenwald is a must-read for me every day. Here's another excellent analysis of the Bush Administration's spin in
regards to the FISA bill. And of course, all the media will say is that our Attorney General teared up talking about FISA.
|
|||
|
|
||||
|
Jedi Frants |
#20 | |||
|
Posts: 3419 04/01/08 7:21 PM The Foppiest! |
Here's a contradiction for you. Harold Ickes tells TPM that they could still woo superdels to give Hillary a victory, even if she loses the popular vote.
Combine that with Hillary's comments today and this past weekend, in which she's trying to paint Obama as not wanting people's votes to count (as in, "He wants me to drop out of the race, so your vote won't count!" FYI, Obama has never said that.). So they count now, but if Hillary doesn't win the popular vote, fuck 'em, I'm going after the superdels? |
|||
|
|
||||
